Photo taken from concerned Malibu neighbor's yard, depicting the proximity of her house to the Fire Camp.The impact on our community is palpable. Consider these top three concerns:
SAFETY: The fire camp will now house inmates, like this 28-year old man who escaped from a MINIMUM security fire camp and broke into the home of a sheriff's deputy, stealing his vehicle, a uniform and WEAPONS. There are multiple other examples of similar incidents, such as seen by this 30-year old man who simply walked away from his minimum security camp.
No one should place a minimum security prison, near a school or family neighborhood. This affects the New Roads School, as much as it does the neighbors. We need to get their representatives involved too.
PROPERTY VALUE: Clearly there will be a drastic reduction of property value with a corrections facility next door. No one expected to live next door to a corrections facility.
TRAFFIC: The camp is proposed to be a 7 day a week IN and OUT facility -- using all roads, Piuma, Stunt, Las Flores, Rambla Pacifico. The fire camp does not have adequate facilities to handle over 100 inmates PLUS all staff for the septic system.
Beyond the inmates, guards and fire-fighters, consider the number of visitors who will now frequent our neighborhood.
After Rambla Pacifico fell, our community was left with inadequate access for fire suppression. The additional facility traffic will not only reduce the quality of our roads, increase travel times, etc... it will also inhibit fire response and our ability to evacuate or move safely in the event of an emergency.
Here is a 2008 example of a community fighting a felon inmate camp. Perhaps someone with a legal background can review and come up with a plan of action for us?
ReplyDeletehttp://no-calfire-inmate-camp.com/facts.html
I'd like to volunteer to do publicity on this effort - I have a rich background in crisis from handling Sun City, South Africa during the fall of apartheid to the Beach Boys during their court issues. I look forward to the meeting tomorrow night. And, Lee and Steve, THANK YOU so much creating this blog.
ReplyDeletei noticed in http://no-calfire-inmate-camp.com/facts.html that not voting is counted as a "yes" vote. has the voting already been counted?
ReplyDeleteis it too late to stop it? has a campaign to stop one worked before? i can't find a huge amount of information on the net on the subject.
great idea with the blog, thank you for setting it up.
Was there a public hearing regarding approval of this project before design was begun?
ReplyDeleteYou people are Ridiculous. You are complaining about a fire camp in Malibu and the safety of your homes, but what happens when a fire does come and there is not enough fire fighter to respond? and your house gets burned down. Then you will be complaining about the inadequate fire department and that they did not do enough. You say you do not want criminals in your back yard, well I can tell you this right behind Tapia Park in Malibu Canyon there has been a facility there since the 70's that house's level 4 ( Murders, Rapists Etc) juvenile criminals. I sure do not hear you complaining about them.
ReplyDeleteThere are actually two facilities in Malibu. One is camp#13 a female inmate fire fighting camp near the golf course and the juvenile facility near Tapia Park. Both of them miles away from residential homes. This would be the first facility in the middle of a residential area in Ca.
ReplyDeleteWhat our area really needs is a fully staffed and operational L. A. County Fire Station at Camp 8 to protect the many residents in the area. We're still serviced by the Piuma Fire Station with an approx response time of 20 MINUTES while home growth has increased over the years.
ReplyDeleteBorn and raised in Malibu Canyon (Piuma & Cold Canyon)I can say that there is residential homes in the vicinity of the Juvenile Camp behind Tapia Park with a 12 feet fence and bob-wire surrounding it and it is a maximum Security Prison with violent Juvenile Offenders.You are probably wondering how I know this and the answer is, my father (now retired) was employed with the county of Los Angeles in a very high rancking position and would have to inspect these facilities. As for Camp #8, that facility has been there way before any residential community was developed, except for some homes in the far distance. So all the homes built after the facility was there, you new what the camp #8 facility was prior to building your homes. You new what the situation was and you chose to move there anyways. So deal with it.
ReplyDeleteAnonymous you are correct -- the community built homes around a Fire Camp. But perhaps you missed our issue? The Fire Camp was designated as a TYPE II camp (ie not part of the CDCR camps which house inmates).
ReplyDeleteWere the designation TYPE I, that would have enabled home-builders and home-owners to make a CHOICE.
Just so we're clear, our issue was about giving the community CHOICE, and requiring these entities to operate with transparency. We came together as a community NOT to debate whether or not the program is a good one, or to alienate employees of the county of Los Angeles. If anything, we are THANKFUL for all the good people on both sides of the issue.
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Fire Suppression Camp Section
The camp section is divided into two units, one containing the five paid/probation camps (Camps II), and the other containing the five inmate camps (Camps I). Camps I is operated in conjunction with the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation. Camps I is composed of Camp 11, Camp 13, Camp 14, Camp 16, and Camp 19. Camps II is composed of Camp 2, Camp 8, Camp 9, Camp 12, and Camp 15. Camp 15 is operated in conjunction with the Los Angeles County Probation Department. The camps provide wildland fire suppression for the county, utilizing bulldozers as well as air support.
See for yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_County_Fire_Department